The complete photo of this boy was downloaded from the Internet via a newsgroup. There are thousands of such pictures and far worse ones, stored by internet providers and made available to any user. This is enabling millions of paedophiles to obtain endless stimulation and encouragement to to pursue children in their own communities and on holiday, at home and overseas.
Internet networks help paedophiles to form networks, protect each other and pass information about children and the places where they may be found.
Sex with children is a crime in almost every country in the world. 190 countries have undertaken to stamp out child sexual exploitation, when they ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child. One hundred and thirty countries attended the World Congress on Commercial Child Sexual Exploitation in Stockholm, in 1996.
Protection of children against this abomination will take major improvements in law enforcement, control of corruption, law reform, education and international co -operation in training and exchange of information and investigation. Please support these efforts to get child pornography off the Internet and to protect children from all forms of sexual exploitation.
Urge your government to commit real resources to eliminate child sexual exploitation!
MY OPINION:
We could either outlaw children or make cameras illegal.
Soon, I'll be running for office as a democrat.
Really, I believe making the punishment a whole lot harsher and longer would do the trick. Currently, the perps make it back out into society quickly as they are treated as simply mentally ill.
Leave them in prison, in general populaton, for longer periods of time. That will at least make them so afraid, that they may take time for a reflective moment before doing it again.
There are a couple aspects of people who like child porn that makes it so difficult to address. They are the psychological reasons that the perps like it. They are identical to those found with molesters.
Very common is the "pure love" aspect. They believe that a childs love is purer than than of an adult. Part of the fantasy is that this child, being an innocent creature, knows no ulterior motive in affection. Thus, the fantasy is that of a safe emotional situation.
Another aspect is that of control. This child enexperienced emotionally and undeveloped physically. This means the perp can fantasize about anything and it wouldn't be percieved as strange or irregular. Also, the lack of physical power means that even were it to be found strange, the would be no stopping it anyway.
There is also the "I was there first" thing. The fantasy is they were the first ones to have this, thus, they have the special bond.
The psychology of he child porn user needs to be examined. Unfortunately, they need to be caught to be examined. Identifying them beforehand is analagous to fortune-telling. You can make some cold-readings and judge by some characteristics in the person's presentation, but it is not the same as the positive proof of the actual pictures or a conviction.
Part of the trouble is that the child pornography is viewed as being less harmful than actual molestation. It is less harmful in that it isn't actual molestation but it is still illegal. Now, clearly one can argue that a child has been abused by the act of being put it this situation for someone else's benefit. The counter argument is that this was not done by the person collecting the porn. Though, they did drive the market by contributing to the demand for the item. Anyway, it is viewed as a lessr crime, sometimes claimed to be victimless, an the sentences are light.
Really, the punishment needs to be be so harsh and traumatic as to make the rate of recidivism drop to zero.
I really like the tattoo option. Just think what the people advocating for the rights of those who are incarcerated and those who are back out are going to say. It would be a ridiculous argument of epic proportions.
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Shedding light on the issue is a good start, Lars.
I was reminded of the Lightamillion candles campaign.
I have a posted a link to their web site.
Please visit their site and light a candle, there you will see links to various organizations that are committed to the cause.
Links:
http://www.lightamillioncandles.com
I used to think that it's a simple question, we just let they know the things they could understand, for the things they lack of understanding, keep they away. Always keep an eye on they.
But, I change my mind now, because a human being is not still, but creative. There are lots of no-talkable topics between us, we just do not know how to talk about it or just do not want to talk about it.
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How about anyone convicted of child porn has to get a tattoo somewhere visible that indicated they what they were convicted of. Castration is not productive because this isn't about sex, it's about power over the victim. Child pornographers may or may not be pedophiles. They may just be twisted greedy people, who know that there is a market for kiddy porn and the customer is willing to pay alot for it. All internet censorship does is put us on a slippery slope so to speak. In my state they have a sex offender website. How about one for child pornographers.
Sorry meant to say "indicates". I would say that the tattoo thing would put us on a slippery slope also, but prisoners already have "prison tats".
You may not think execution is a productive idea, but it gets my vote. How many dead men have been caught molesting children? The answer is ZERO!
I would recommend the government agencies to request google and yahoos to crawl the net for child pornography sites and provide a facility to the Internet Service providers, server hosting providers and the government agencies to block them.
There should be strict punishment for the server providers.
Did it start yesterday? Where were we while it grew slowly and gradually to zillion dollar business?
While we may say and feel that its good to talk about it and so on, or that not talking about it will still not help, i think, we are, just mildly stating going around in self perpetuated circles.
I dont know how we can stop it, but i for sure know, that we cannot stop it.
Like we could not stop a hundred thousand other malaises plaguing the world.
Perhaps, there is one way...how about each human on earth renouncing all the vices of sex-lust, anger, greed and attachment? Possible???
sorry but reality is depressing...
Its systemic, endemic and therefore a cure has to be drastic....which of course we are in no power ever to effect...so its gonna be idle talk about this...
Its like trying to hold back a bursting dam with a few hands, could not be positive about this...its damn depressing...i will protect my child and all others in my immediate vicinity...and if everyone will, then it may not happen, that all do not is the source of this problem...it adults who create child porno for adults....its a meat shop and most of us want meat...so who is gonna stop what?
Multimedia Producer and i3D Programmer for Acrobat 3D PDF, JavaFX, Mobile & Virtual Worlds.
This is more opinion based but I think a possibly effective approach could be for federal law enforcement to formally collaborate with North Americas internet hosting and content providing websites. Do a two week full shakedown of all the image/video data on there databases with no public notification, isolate the illegal media, remove it. If you can find the person that uploaded it, go after them as well.
Its very difficult to police the Internet without risk to invading peoples privacy, censorship, or enforcing domestic laws since i bet alot of this smut is uploaded from computers in small 3rd world apartments..
Sadly we live in a world where, once a topic gets over a minimal attention threshold, it will be marketed regardless of the presence of an overall objection. It's the price we have to pay for the fundamentals within our democratic and economic system. Strange enough these deviant tendencies have a much harder time when developing in a firm dictatorial regime... but then again, that's not what the general public wants either. So at the end of the day, the safety of moral standards is in part guaranteed by education and in part enforced by the extent of repressive means that a society allows it's governmental institutions to use ... It's a balancing act in a way... much comparable too the intent behind the bill of homeland security (I think it's called). What liberties are you willing to give up in order too achieve a higher percentage of compliance...
The bottom line is , you can never prevent people from developing a sick mind, and the paradigm of laws and regulations only prevent things to developed into the mainstream of acceptance...
For me, Execution is a best way to stop child pornography. Those children are living with suffering mentally and physically to all along their life. Just reading the headline "Child pornography" is already a big suffering and imagine those children who lived those satanic situation during times? How they live their life?!!
Sadly I think the answer is that we cannot - the internet (or more correctly the connected world we live in) provides a channel for this and other activities that the majority of the world find abhorrent that previously did not exist.
I can remember back in the late 90's coming across this as data hidden in the headers of jpg files - which proved to me that technology would never be the way to combat this menace. Education and stiff prison sentences are a start (and a good deterrent for those that seek to profit from this) - but they do not help deal with those that are mentally ill .
As a father of three I find the only thing that I can do is tightly control the pictures and details of my children that are online and educate them as to the dangers that lurk on the internet and trust that they will apply common sense in their communications
Really, I believe making the punishment a whole lot harsher and longer would do the trick. Currently, the perps make it back out into society quickly as they are treated as simply mentally ill.
Leave them in prison, in general populaton, for longer periods of time. That will at least make them so afraid, that they may take time for a reflective moment before doing it again.
There are a couple aspects of people who like child porn that makes it so difficult to address. They are the psychological reasons that the perps like it. They are identical to those found with molesters.
Very common is the "pure love" aspect. They believe that a childs love is purer than than of an adult. Part of the fantasy is that this child, being an innocent creature, knows no ulterior motive in affection. Thus, the fantasy is that of a safe emotional situation.
Another aspect is that of control. This child enexperienced emotionally and undeveloped physically. This means the perp can fantasize about anything and it wouldn't be percieved as strange or irregular. Also, the lack of physical power means that even were it to be found strange, the would be no stopping it anyway.
There is also the "I was there first" thing. The fantasy is they were the first ones to have this, thus, they have the special bond.
The psychology of he child porn user needs to be examined. Unfortunately, they need to be caught to be examined. Identifying them beforehand is analagous to fortune-telling. You can make some cold-readings and judge by some characteristics in the person's presentation, but it is not the same as the positive proof of the actual pictures or a conviction.
Part of the trouble is that the child pornography is viewed as being less harmful than actual molestation. It is less harmful in that it isn't actual molestation but it is still illegal. Now, clearly one can argue that a child has been abused by the act of being put it this situation for someone else's benefit. The counter argument is that this was not done by the person collecting the porn. Though, they did drive the market by contributing to the demand for the item. Anyway, it is viewed as a lessr crime, sometimes claimed to be victimless, an the sentences are light.
Really, the punishment needs to be be so harsh and traumatic as to make the rate of recidivism drop to zero.
I really like the tattoo option. Just think what the people advocating for the rights of those who are incarcerated and those who are back out are going to say. It would be a ridiculous argument of epic proportions.
This is not the official position of the government but it has been in the international news papers so often it must be relevant to some form of vigilante justice. Is it an answer? I don't think we will see it here in the near future but it draws a dynamic difference between the emerging culture and the declining culture of our neighborhood.
It would be nice if there was some sort of computer program acting as a *gateway* that gets tripped with photo's that must pass approval. Big dream, yes I know but how else do we strive for improvement. :)
Lars, I'm trying to get a fix on the problem, as you see it. What is the "size" of the problem? Indeed, what's the definition ("child" meaning what age?) and what is the size of the market? Is it a growing problem or a phenomenon roughly proportional to a deviant population that has not grown disproportionately? And what is your current or proposed role in an organized response to this (so far under-specified) problem? --No offense intended here, but "how can we stop child porn?" feels like it's coming out of left field. :-)
We could stop the media sexualization of teens, tweens and pre-teens. That would go a good way to stopping child pornography. Part of the problem is because the media has been doing this the kids themselves are doing this. They're now 'sexting' that is sending explicit nude or semi-nude pictures to their friends and they're getting sexually active sooner on average.
Internet Censorship wont work. All you will do is drive it deeper underground making it even harder for law enforcement and such to find and deal with. People will use things like TOR, Freenet and Darknets to get access to this crap. The other ones you prohibit make it pretty hard to deal with short of locking people up for life which is usually what happens already.
Fundamentally the consumption has to be monitored and minimised.
Intelligent tagging of videos as Regular and Adult content
User-initiated reporting of porn-spam
Software to identify non-regulated content
I agree with the social campaign - Because all parents will identify with the severity of the problem immediately
There is a fallacy underlying this question: the idea that the optimal level of crime in a society is zero. It turns out that the optimal level is achieved when the marginal cost of enforcement equals the marginal benefit of enforcement. When the crime rate is zero, the marginal cost of enforcement is far greater than the marginal benefit, if such a level of enforcement is even feasible.
A related concept is Pat Moynihan's idea of defining deviancy down. As a deviancy, however defined, increases, the cost of reducing it increases. At some point, it becomes too costly to enforce the law against a deviancy, so it is declared no longer deviant. For example, Prohibition declared alcohol use to be a deviancy. It did not stop this deviancy, but actually increased it and severely increased the costs of reducing it compared to other means. These costs led to its repeal. Many other deviancies have been similarly defined away, such as homosexuality, cohabitation, adultery and, increasingly, marijuana use. Please note that I'm not personally defining these as deviancies.
Sadly we live in a world where, once a topic gets over a minimal attention threshold, it will be marketed regardless of the presence of an overall objection. It's the price we have to pay for the fundamentals within our democratic and economic system. Strange enough these deviant tendencies have a much harder time when developing in a firm dictatorial regime... but then again, that's not what the general public wants either. So at the end of the day, the safety of moral standards is in part guaranteed by education and in part enforced by the extent of repressive means that a society allows it's governmental institutions to use ... It's a balancing act in a way... much comparable too the intent behind the bill of homeland security (I think it's called). What liberties are you willing to give up in order too achieve a higher percentage of compliance...
The bottom line is , you can never prevent people from developing a sick mind, and the paradigm of laws and regulations only prevent things to developed into the mainstream of acceptance...
Internet networks help paedophiles to form networks, protect each other and pass information about children and the places where they may be found.
Sex with children is a crime in almost every country in the world. 190 countries have undertaken to stamp out child sexual exploitation, when they ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child. One hundred and thirty countries attended the World Congress on Commercial Child Sexual Exploitation in Stockholm, in 1996.
Protection of children against this abomination will take major improvements in law enforcement, control of corruption, law reform, education and international co -operation in training and exchange of information and investigation. Please support these efforts to get child pornography off the Internet and to protect children from all forms of sexual exploitation.
Urge your government to commit real resources to eliminate child sexual exploitation!
MY OPINION:
We could either outlaw children or make cameras illegal.
Soon, I'll be running for office as a democrat.
Really, I believe making the punishment a whole lot harsher and longer would do the trick. Currently, the perps make it back out into society quickly as they are treated as simply mentally ill.
Leave them in prison, in general populaton, for longer periods of time. That will at least make them so afraid, that they may take time for a reflective moment before doing it again.
There are a couple aspects of people who like child porn that makes it so difficult to address. They are the psychological reasons that the perps like it. They are identical to those found with molesters.
Very common is the "pure love" aspect. They believe that a childs love is purer than than of an adult. Part of the fantasy is that this child, being an innocent creature, knows no ulterior motive in affection. Thus, the fantasy is that of a safe emotional situation.
Another aspect is that of control. This child enexperienced emotionally and undeveloped physically. This means the perp can fantasize about anything and it wouldn't be percieved as strange or irregular. Also, the lack of physical power means that even were it to be found strange, the would be no stopping it anyway.
There is also the "I was there first" thing. The fantasy is they were the first ones to have this, thus, they have the special bond.
The psychology of he child porn user needs to be examined. Unfortunately, they need to be caught to be examined. Identifying them beforehand is analagous to fortune-telling. You can make some cold-readings and judge by some characteristics in the person's presentation, but it is not the same as the positive proof of the actual pictures or a conviction.
Part of the trouble is that the child pornography is viewed as being less harmful than actual molestation. It is less harmful in that it isn't actual molestation but it is still illegal. Now, clearly one can argue that a child has been abused by the act of being put it this situation for someone else's benefit. The counter argument is that this was not done by the person collecting the porn. Though, they did drive the market by contributing to the demand for the item. Anyway, it is viewed as a lessr crime, sometimes claimed to be victimless, an the sentences are light.
Really, the punishment needs to be be so harsh and traumatic as to make the rate of recidivism drop to zero.
I really like the tattoo option. Just think what the people advocating for the rights of those who are incarcerated and those who are back out are going to say. It would be a ridiculous argument of epic proportions.
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Shedding light on the issue is a good start, Lars.
I was reminded of the Lightamillion candles campaign.
I have a posted a link to their web site.
Please visit their site and light a candle, there you will see links to various organizations that are committed to the cause.
Links:
http://www.lightamillioncandles.com
I used to think that it's a simple question, we just let they know the things they could understand, for the things they lack of understanding, keep they away. Always keep an eye on they.
But, I change my mind now, because a human being is not still, but creative. There are lots of no-talkable topics between us, we just do not know how to talk about it or just do not want to talk about it.
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How about anyone convicted of child porn has to get a tattoo somewhere visible that indicated they what they were convicted of. Castration is not productive because this isn't about sex, it's about power over the victim. Child pornographers may or may not be pedophiles. They may just be twisted greedy people, who know that there is a market for kiddy porn and the customer is willing to pay alot for it. All internet censorship does is put us on a slippery slope so to speak. In my state they have a sex offender website. How about one for child pornographers.
Sorry meant to say "indicates". I would say that the tattoo thing would put us on a slippery slope also, but prisoners already have "prison tats".
You may not think execution is a productive idea, but it gets my vote. How many dead men have been caught molesting children? The answer is ZERO!
I would recommend the government agencies to request google and yahoos to crawl the net for child pornography sites and provide a facility to the Internet Service providers, server hosting providers and the government agencies to block them.
There should be strict punishment for the server providers.
Did it start yesterday? Where were we while it grew slowly and gradually to zillion dollar business?
While we may say and feel that its good to talk about it and so on, or that not talking about it will still not help, i think, we are, just mildly stating going around in self perpetuated circles.
I dont know how we can stop it, but i for sure know, that we cannot stop it.
Like we could not stop a hundred thousand other malaises plaguing the world.
Perhaps, there is one way...how about each human on earth renouncing all the vices of sex-lust, anger, greed and attachment? Possible???
sorry but reality is depressing...
Its systemic, endemic and therefore a cure has to be drastic....which of course we are in no power ever to effect...so its gonna be idle talk about this...
Its like trying to hold back a bursting dam with a few hands, could not be positive about this...its damn depressing...i will protect my child and all others in my immediate vicinity...and if everyone will, then it may not happen, that all do not is the source of this problem...it adults who create child porno for adults....its a meat shop and most of us want meat...so who is gonna stop what?
Multimedia Producer and i3D Programmer for Acrobat 3D PDF, JavaFX, Mobile & Virtual Worlds.
This is more opinion based but I think a possibly effective approach could be for federal law enforcement to formally collaborate with North Americas internet hosting and content providing websites. Do a two week full shakedown of all the image/video data on there databases with no public notification, isolate the illegal media, remove it. If you can find the person that uploaded it, go after them as well.
Its very difficult to police the Internet without risk to invading peoples privacy, censorship, or enforcing domestic laws since i bet alot of this smut is uploaded from computers in small 3rd world apartments..
Sadly we live in a world where, once a topic gets over a minimal attention threshold, it will be marketed regardless of the presence of an overall objection. It's the price we have to pay for the fundamentals within our democratic and economic system. Strange enough these deviant tendencies have a much harder time when developing in a firm dictatorial regime... but then again, that's not what the general public wants either. So at the end of the day, the safety of moral standards is in part guaranteed by education and in part enforced by the extent of repressive means that a society allows it's governmental institutions to use ... It's a balancing act in a way... much comparable too the intent behind the bill of homeland security (I think it's called). What liberties are you willing to give up in order too achieve a higher percentage of compliance...
The bottom line is , you can never prevent people from developing a sick mind, and the paradigm of laws and regulations only prevent things to developed into the mainstream of acceptance...
For me, Execution is a best way to stop child pornography. Those children are living with suffering mentally and physically to all along their life. Just reading the headline "Child pornography" is already a big suffering and imagine those children who lived those satanic situation during times? How they live their life?!!
Sadly I think the answer is that we cannot - the internet (or more correctly the connected world we live in) provides a channel for this and other activities that the majority of the world find abhorrent that previously did not exist.
I can remember back in the late 90's coming across this as data hidden in the headers of jpg files - which proved to me that technology would never be the way to combat this menace. Education and stiff prison sentences are a start (and a good deterrent for those that seek to profit from this) - but they do not help deal with those that are mentally ill .
As a father of three I find the only thing that I can do is tightly control the pictures and details of my children that are online and educate them as to the dangers that lurk on the internet and trust that they will apply common sense in their communications
Really, I believe making the punishment a whole lot harsher and longer would do the trick. Currently, the perps make it back out into society quickly as they are treated as simply mentally ill.
Leave them in prison, in general populaton, for longer periods of time. That will at least make them so afraid, that they may take time for a reflective moment before doing it again.
There are a couple aspects of people who like child porn that makes it so difficult to address. They are the psychological reasons that the perps like it. They are identical to those found with molesters.
Very common is the "pure love" aspect. They believe that a childs love is purer than than of an adult. Part of the fantasy is that this child, being an innocent creature, knows no ulterior motive in affection. Thus, the fantasy is that of a safe emotional situation.
Another aspect is that of control. This child enexperienced emotionally and undeveloped physically. This means the perp can fantasize about anything and it wouldn't be percieved as strange or irregular. Also, the lack of physical power means that even were it to be found strange, the would be no stopping it anyway.
There is also the "I was there first" thing. The fantasy is they were the first ones to have this, thus, they have the special bond.
The psychology of he child porn user needs to be examined. Unfortunately, they need to be caught to be examined. Identifying them beforehand is analagous to fortune-telling. You can make some cold-readings and judge by some characteristics in the person's presentation, but it is not the same as the positive proof of the actual pictures or a conviction.
Part of the trouble is that the child pornography is viewed as being less harmful than actual molestation. It is less harmful in that it isn't actual molestation but it is still illegal. Now, clearly one can argue that a child has been abused by the act of being put it this situation for someone else's benefit. The counter argument is that this was not done by the person collecting the porn. Though, they did drive the market by contributing to the demand for the item. Anyway, it is viewed as a lessr crime, sometimes claimed to be victimless, an the sentences are light.
Really, the punishment needs to be be so harsh and traumatic as to make the rate of recidivism drop to zero.
I really like the tattoo option. Just think what the people advocating for the rights of those who are incarcerated and those who are back out are going to say. It would be a ridiculous argument of epic proportions.
This is not the official position of the government but it has been in the international news papers so often it must be relevant to some form of vigilante justice. Is it an answer? I don't think we will see it here in the near future but it draws a dynamic difference between the emerging culture and the declining culture of our neighborhood.
It would be nice if there was some sort of computer program acting as a *gateway* that gets tripped with photo's that must pass approval. Big dream, yes I know but how else do we strive for improvement. :)
Lars, I'm trying to get a fix on the problem, as you see it. What is the "size" of the problem? Indeed, what's the definition ("child" meaning what age?) and what is the size of the market? Is it a growing problem or a phenomenon roughly proportional to a deviant population that has not grown disproportionately? And what is your current or proposed role in an organized response to this (so far under-specified) problem? --No offense intended here, but "how can we stop child porn?" feels like it's coming out of left field. :-)
We could stop the media sexualization of teens, tweens and pre-teens. That would go a good way to stopping child pornography. Part of the problem is because the media has been doing this the kids themselves are doing this. They're now 'sexting' that is sending explicit nude or semi-nude pictures to their friends and they're getting sexually active sooner on average.
Internet Censorship wont work. All you will do is drive it deeper underground making it even harder for law enforcement and such to find and deal with. People will use things like TOR, Freenet and Darknets to get access to this crap. The other ones you prohibit make it pretty hard to deal with short of locking people up for life which is usually what happens already.
Fundamentally the consumption has to be monitored and minimised.
Intelligent tagging of videos as Regular and Adult content
User-initiated reporting of porn-spam
Software to identify non-regulated content
I agree with the social campaign - Because all parents will identify with the severity of the problem immediately
There is a fallacy underlying this question: the idea that the optimal level of crime in a society is zero. It turns out that the optimal level is achieved when the marginal cost of enforcement equals the marginal benefit of enforcement. When the crime rate is zero, the marginal cost of enforcement is far greater than the marginal benefit, if such a level of enforcement is even feasible.
A related concept is Pat Moynihan's idea of defining deviancy down. As a deviancy, however defined, increases, the cost of reducing it increases. At some point, it becomes too costly to enforce the law against a deviancy, so it is declared no longer deviant. For example, Prohibition declared alcohol use to be a deviancy. It did not stop this deviancy, but actually increased it and severely increased the costs of reducing it compared to other means. These costs led to its repeal. Many other deviancies have been similarly defined away, such as homosexuality, cohabitation, adultery and, increasingly, marijuana use. Please note that I'm not personally defining these as deviancies.
Sadly we live in a world where, once a topic gets over a minimal attention threshold, it will be marketed regardless of the presence of an overall objection. It's the price we have to pay for the fundamentals within our democratic and economic system. Strange enough these deviant tendencies have a much harder time when developing in a firm dictatorial regime... but then again, that's not what the general public wants either. So at the end of the day, the safety of moral standards is in part guaranteed by education and in part enforced by the extent of repressive means that a society allows it's governmental institutions to use ... It's a balancing act in a way... much comparable too the intent behind the bill of homeland security (I think it's called). What liberties are you willing to give up in order too achieve a higher percentage of compliance...
The bottom line is , you can never prevent people from developing a sick mind, and the paradigm of laws and regulations only prevent things to developed into the mainstream of acceptance...
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